Chad, great podcast. Love the discussion on Cade. I had one question about Cade and the Pistons, and I am curious to get your thoughts. I do not follow the nba nearly as much as the nfl, so maybe this comparison is totally off base. I just know the GMs in the NFL do not like admitting they are wrong, they do not like cutting their losses, and they will give the guys they drafted and signed as free agents every opportunity to prove themselves and prove the GM right. I know Cade and Killian Hayes play different positions and you certainly can have multiple ball handlers and initiators on the court at the same time, but if the Pistons do draft Cade then in a way that would be admitting their top 10 pick of Hayes last year was a waste in a sense. Again, I know these guys are two different players, but you usually don't see teams use a top 10 pick on a guy to fill a certain role, and then the next year you use another top 10 pick on someone to fill that same role. That really just doesnt happen. The Arizona Cardinals did it a couple years ago, but that was a very rare exception with very different circumstances. So, my question is, could that be a factor at all for Troy Weaver and the Pistons? Would they feel more inclined to protect their guy (Hayes, Weaver's 1st draft pick as a GM) and build around him rather than bring in another guy to basically take his job?
It's a really smart question and I think the general concept holds true in the NBA just like in the NFL. GMs don't like to admit mistakes (except coaches, they have no problem firing head coaches LOL) and often will double and triple down on them to avoid looking bad. I also think it means GMs without job security often seek out the safest pick. You might get criticized for drafting the third best player in the draft first. But you get fired for drafting a bust. One of the reasons I think Cade is so universally appealing is that he's safe. He's got a really high floor. As for his fit with the Pistons -- I'm not worried about Cade and Killian fitting together. The league values having multiple ball handlers and one fo the things that's attractive about both players is their ability to play multiple positions. I do think one area that is more problematic is that this young Pistons core isn't very athletic. All of their young guys are marginal athletes and Cade isn't an elite one either. That could be the bigger issue. The roster needs some athleticism from their young core and there's Jalen Green, one of the three best athletes in the draft, sitting there.
Phenomenal podcast, tons of great info. I'm looking forward to the Hollinger pod too.
Thanks so much for the feedback. Lots of great pods coming from Rafael Barlowe, Tony Jones, Marc Stein and John Hollinger in the next couple of weeks
Chad, great podcast. Love the discussion on Cade. I had one question about Cade and the Pistons, and I am curious to get your thoughts. I do not follow the nba nearly as much as the nfl, so maybe this comparison is totally off base. I just know the GMs in the NFL do not like admitting they are wrong, they do not like cutting their losses, and they will give the guys they drafted and signed as free agents every opportunity to prove themselves and prove the GM right. I know Cade and Killian Hayes play different positions and you certainly can have multiple ball handlers and initiators on the court at the same time, but if the Pistons do draft Cade then in a way that would be admitting their top 10 pick of Hayes last year was a waste in a sense. Again, I know these guys are two different players, but you usually don't see teams use a top 10 pick on a guy to fill a certain role, and then the next year you use another top 10 pick on someone to fill that same role. That really just doesnt happen. The Arizona Cardinals did it a couple years ago, but that was a very rare exception with very different circumstances. So, my question is, could that be a factor at all for Troy Weaver and the Pistons? Would they feel more inclined to protect their guy (Hayes, Weaver's 1st draft pick as a GM) and build around him rather than bring in another guy to basically take his job?
It's a really smart question and I think the general concept holds true in the NBA just like in the NFL. GMs don't like to admit mistakes (except coaches, they have no problem firing head coaches LOL) and often will double and triple down on them to avoid looking bad. I also think it means GMs without job security often seek out the safest pick. You might get criticized for drafting the third best player in the draft first. But you get fired for drafting a bust. One of the reasons I think Cade is so universally appealing is that he's safe. He's got a really high floor. As for his fit with the Pistons -- I'm not worried about Cade and Killian fitting together. The league values having multiple ball handlers and one fo the things that's attractive about both players is their ability to play multiple positions. I do think one area that is more problematic is that this young Pistons core isn't very athletic. All of their young guys are marginal athletes and Cade isn't an elite one either. That could be the bigger issue. The roster needs some athleticism from their young core and there's Jalen Green, one of the three best athletes in the draft, sitting there.