Warriors hands down are winners. Itโs a win win situationโif Beal becomes available then great, swap Kuminga, Moody and Wiggins for him. If not, oh well Kuminga will be borderline elite. Warriors invested big into development this year(grabbed longtime Raptors developmental coach and grabbed a renowned teacher credited with training Jokic) Draymond loves both picks(according to report) and if he loves them that pretty much guarantees Steph will love them(Draymond and Steph are EXTREMELY CLOSE plus Draymond is persuasive ๐). The best teams go BPA worry about other stuff later. I bet Kuminga has more trade value then Giddey and maybe on par with Barnes trade value. Warriors A+(extremely biased fan)
On second thoughtโฆ. Iโm not buying Draymond texting Myers during draft. Myers revealing that anecdote was all fluff. He knows Dub fans eat that shit up. IMO he is telling us fans what we want to hear because we fans think itโs important that Draymond, Klay and Steph approve mainly due to some fear that Curry could leave after this season, which I think would NEVER happen, Steph is a God in Nor Cal.
Chad -- I just want to say thank you so much for all of the fantastic content during this draft cycle. It has been so great getting to read/listen to all of your stuff, and interacting with you in the live Zooms. You also were first on some HUGE calls like Barnes at 4, Ziaire top 10, and more. Great job, and thanks again!
Chad - congrats on calling Barnes to the Raps immediately after the lottery. I know you caught a lot of crap for that but you were on it!
It sounds like part of why the Raps took Barnes over Suggs was because Suggs had a bad workout. Youโve talked about instances where late risers had great workouts like Dame and Donovan Mitchell, or where guys who busted had deceivingly great workouts like Darko. Can you think of examples where an eventual all star had bad pre-draft workouts? Trying to figure out what this buzz might indicate about Suggs. Thanks!
Happy that Cavs....drafted and kept Mobley!..Rubio should help further the development of Garland. Chad i think the SPURS are now officially in rebuild mode...Primo at 12 was a shocker and as much as i like Weiskamp in round 2....NOT a fit withSPURS...I would have included Spurs and Grizzlies in your draft losers last night.
How many times, though, have we heard about a player that โthis pick will be seen as a steal if he can improve his shootingโ or that โheโs very raw but if he develops he could be the best player in this draftโ? Iโm a longtime Spurs fan and they have perhaps the best record of draft โstealsโ over the last 25 years. They also have Chip Engelland, the best shooting coach in the league, and a very strong developmental program. And Iโm here to tell you this: Donโt bet on it. For every Kawhi Leonard or Manu Ginobili there are ten or more Kendrick Nunns, Emmanuel Mudiays, Mario Hezonjas, and Tyrus Thomases. All these guys have already HAD great shooting coaches and been in developmental programsโespecially the ones from the top NCAA conferences or overseas teams like Real Madrid. Even the Spurs havenโt been able to turn Lonnie Walker into a lights-out shooter or Dejounte Murray into a true point guard. Maybe Scottie Barnes will be like Kawhi, will learn to shoot, and become a superstar. Maybe Keon Johnson will learn to make an impact on offense or Kai Jones will learn to play basketball. But I wouldnโt count on it. And if somebody offered me a proven young star like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander AND the #6 AND maybe a lower draft pick for Cade Cunningham? Iโd take it. No question.
Motown also drafted Iowa big Garza...Luka may not be athletically explosive yet has a more complete game than Marc Gasol, Kendrick Perkins. Luc Longeley, and Stephan Adams etc...Garza at the least can eat space in the post and be a reasonable backup with offensive capabilities...great 2nd round pick and no pressure for Garza to find immediate footing...plus Garza can play a little pick and pop due to his soft touch
One question about Garuba - when is he coming over? I read he has a 3 million euro buyout that increases 1 million per year. Roughly $3.5 mil USD at this point. Even if Tillman was to actually be interested in paying for something and contribute to his buyout, Garuba's first year salary will still only be $2,353,320 (and that's assuming he gets the full 120% of the rookie scale). Is he going to pay to play for the Rockets? An installment buyout contract? Some other solution?
Buzz City ๐๐ !!!! Big wins tonight! Bouknight,Kai,Thor & Lewis!!
Warriors hands down are winners. Itโs a win win situationโif Beal becomes available then great, swap Kuminga, Moody and Wiggins for him. If not, oh well Kuminga will be borderline elite. Warriors invested big into development this year(grabbed longtime Raptors developmental coach and grabbed a renowned teacher credited with training Jokic) Draymond loves both picks(according to report) and if he loves them that pretty much guarantees Steph will love them(Draymond and Steph are EXTREMELY CLOSE plus Draymond is persuasive ๐). The best teams go BPA worry about other stuff later. I bet Kuminga has more trade value then Giddey and maybe on par with Barnes trade value. Warriors A+(extremely biased fan)
If it were me picking for the Knicks
19. Jaden Springer
21. Josh Christopher
32. Miles McBride
Last night was rough.
On second thoughtโฆ. Iโm not buying Draymond texting Myers during draft. Myers revealing that anecdote was all fluff. He knows Dub fans eat that shit up. IMO he is telling us fans what we want to hear because we fans think itโs important that Draymond, Klay and Steph approve mainly due to some fear that Curry could leave after this season, which I think would NEVER happen, Steph is a God in Nor Cal.
Chad -- I just want to say thank you so much for all of the fantastic content during this draft cycle. It has been so great getting to read/listen to all of your stuff, and interacting with you in the live Zooms. You also were first on some HUGE calls like Barnes at 4, Ziaire top 10, and more. Great job, and thanks again!
Chad - congrats on calling Barnes to the Raps immediately after the lottery. I know you caught a lot of crap for that but you were on it!
It sounds like part of why the Raps took Barnes over Suggs was because Suggs had a bad workout. Youโve talked about instances where late risers had great workouts like Dame and Donovan Mitchell, or where guys who busted had deceivingly great workouts like Darko. Can you think of examples where an eventual all star had bad pre-draft workouts? Trying to figure out what this buzz might indicate about Suggs. Thanks!
Happy that Cavs....drafted and kept Mobley!..Rubio should help further the development of Garland. Chad i think the SPURS are now officially in rebuild mode...Primo at 12 was a shocker and as much as i like Weiskamp in round 2....NOT a fit withSPURS...I would have included Spurs and Grizzlies in your draft losers last night.
How many times, though, have we heard about a player that โthis pick will be seen as a steal if he can improve his shootingโ or that โheโs very raw but if he develops he could be the best player in this draftโ? Iโm a longtime Spurs fan and they have perhaps the best record of draft โstealsโ over the last 25 years. They also have Chip Engelland, the best shooting coach in the league, and a very strong developmental program. And Iโm here to tell you this: Donโt bet on it. For every Kawhi Leonard or Manu Ginobili there are ten or more Kendrick Nunns, Emmanuel Mudiays, Mario Hezonjas, and Tyrus Thomases. All these guys have already HAD great shooting coaches and been in developmental programsโespecially the ones from the top NCAA conferences or overseas teams like Real Madrid. Even the Spurs havenโt been able to turn Lonnie Walker into a lights-out shooter or Dejounte Murray into a true point guard. Maybe Scottie Barnes will be like Kawhi, will learn to shoot, and become a superstar. Maybe Keon Johnson will learn to make an impact on offense or Kai Jones will learn to play basketball. But I wouldnโt count on it. And if somebody offered me a proven young star like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander AND the #6 AND maybe a lower draft pick for Cade Cunningham? Iโd take it. No question.
Also, I think Thunder have eyes toward 2023 draft for Victor Wembanyama. They just need to keep stock piling picks and tanking.
Motown also drafted Iowa big Garza...Luka may not be athletically explosive yet has a more complete game than Marc Gasol, Kendrick Perkins. Luc Longeley, and Stephan Adams etc...Garza at the least can eat space in the post and be a reasonable backup with offensive capabilities...great 2nd round pick and no pressure for Garza to find immediate footing...plus Garza can play a little pick and pop due to his soft touch
One question about Garuba - when is he coming over? I read he has a 3 million euro buyout that increases 1 million per year. Roughly $3.5 mil USD at this point. Even if Tillman was to actually be interested in paying for something and contribute to his buyout, Garuba's first year salary will still only be $2,353,320 (and that's assuming he gets the full 120% of the rookie scale). Is he going to pay to play for the Rockets? An installment buyout contract? Some other solution?